Alberto-Bye Bye Buddy!

For the second episode of That Takes Me Back, hosts Kelan David and Maia Sage had Buddy in the studio to share stories about his late father. TW: If you have lost a loved one, please take care while listening. Alberto senior influenced Buddy's life significantly, including that nickname which has prompted many "Bye Buddy, I hope you find your dad!" (it's kind of dark, we know, but he laughs). Buddy recounted playing a trumpet solo in his high school jazz band for a song his father requested. Now that song always takes him back to his dad, along with a couple others. The conversation delved into Buddy's father's life, Buddy's memories of him, and the impact of his passing on Buddy and his family.

Here are the songs mentioned:

"In the Mood" by Glenn Miller - This was the main song discussed by Buddy. He played this song on trumpet in his middle school jazz band at his father's request, and it was also played at his father's funeral.

"Sharp Dressed Man" by ZZ Top - This song took Buddy back to memories of driving with his dad in his truck, often on trips to Texas to visit family

Full Transcript:

Kelan David 00:00

You know when you hear a song and it triggers a memory, it instantly takes you back to a particular person or place or moment. This podcast is all about that song and those memories. Welcome to that takes me back where we share stories that connect music and memories. We're your hosts, Callan David

Maia Honeycutt 00:19

and Maia sage, Maia.

Kelan David 00:24

Okay. Oh yeah, all right. So

Buddy 00:25

disclaimer, Maia is sick. Yeah, that's why Darth Vader is here. Darth Vader's here, and you might hear some tea drinking and stuff. Yeah, a

Maia Honeycutt 00:32

little bit of tea drinking. Hopefully, it's actually so much better than yesterday. That was my biggest concern yesterday. I was like, I'm gonna be blowing my nose every five seconds. It's already pretty Yeah, took a day quill I

Buddy 00:43

went to the store and got her a bunch of shot

Kelan David 00:45

people and stuff. Yeah? Good. Oh, yeah.

Maia Honeycutt 01:00

Ah, we had my partner buddy on the podcast. I knew he was going to be a good guest to have on here, because he can really easily flow between, like, being more serious and being a little bit emotional, but also just kind of talking about whatever, being a bit silly. Yeah, totally, yeah. And he enjoyed it. I think, yeah, that's awesome. That's great. I was like, thanks for coming on here, even though you didn't have a choice whether or not you're gonna come on here, right? Only because, you know, we are sourcing from our closest companions at this, like, stage in the podcast. So of course, immediately I was like, buddy, you have to come on the podcast. You got to see what it's like. And I was glad that he was super gung ho about it. He brought us a couple different songs that really were centered around taking him back to memories with his dad, yeah, and that was a really special, some special stories that he shared with us, and a situation where, like, those songs are not songs he likes or listens to at all in his present life. So it does tend to immediately just transport him back

Kelan David 02:06

right, yeah. And those aren't songs that just like, come on the radio,

Maia Honeycutt 02:10

yeah, yeah. So exactly, it's kind of like preserved them, yeah, right as Yeah, kind of a bit of a time capsule. And that was actually what was so cool is, we did talk a bit about, like, the actual, like the seeds of those memories, but we kind of just ended up talking a lot about who his dad was as a whole. And that was enjoyable to me. We got a really good feel of just like his Tejano upbringing, and you know him, even just like, what he tended to wear, or, like being more of a traditional

Kelan David 02:41

guy, right? Yeah. And it was fun seeing the memories come back, too, buddy in real time, yeah, as he was talking about the things, and yeah, in in, like, the emotions that came with it too.

Maia Honeycutt 02:52

Yeah, a lot of laughing, because his dad, I think, was kind of a bit of a goofball. So, like, you're right, like, some of that reminiscing was definitely, like, funny for him. And then also some of it was just really, like, sweet,

Kelan David 03:04

yeah, definitely, yeah. So it was really nice to be present for his Yeah, reminiscing, which is exactly what we're going for, yes, exactly yeah. And the fact that the three of us have experienced loss in the relative, you know, near past, sort of, you know, made it, what's the word I'm looking for, you know, just an outlet.

Maia Honeycutt 03:25

Yeah, yes, an outlet for, like, some processing. And, no, I'm really glad you said that, actually, because one of the notes that I even put in here was listening to it back again. I'm sort of realizing that this podcast has become exactly what it kind of started as, because you were telling me about how you got this idea from being the quote, unquote, music therapist at a nursing home, like you didn't call yourself that, but people started to think of you as the music therapist, and we just kind of have accidentally become a place where, For some of these episodes, people are bringing us songs that open up the doors to talking about some of these things. Yeah, right. And tend to be a bit heavy and emotional. And it like literally ends up kind of feeling like a therapy session,

Kelan David 04:12

you know. I mean, I don't want to speak for Buddy, obviously, but like, I feel like maybe he got a little bit of that out of it too.

Maia Honeycutt 04:18

I think so too. I think that he could probably always use his use a safe place to shed a few tears,

Kelan David 04:26

yeah, what better place, other than in front of our millions of listeners,

Maia Honeycutt 04:30

but at the same time, like when you're in the present, it doesn't feel like there's a million people that are going to tune in and right?

Kelan David 04:37

You know, yeah, and that is what we're going for, is a safe sex we're going for,

Maia Honeycutt 04:41

yeah, yeah. And I think it's good to talk about the people that we've lost, because it is a way of honoring them and like showing how much they have contributed to who you are in your present life.

Kelan David 04:56

Yeah, yeah. Actually, I just watched a YouTube video. About the ghosts that we leave behind. And one of the ghosts basically like they say that the last ghost that leaves Earth after you pass is the last time that your name is spoken. And you know, in I guess now you know, we're speaking these onto a recording. And so these names, you know, will continue to be spoken, wow, into the future.

Maia Honeycutt 05:28

That just gave me chills. Actually, that was beautiful. Hey, thanks. I didn't think about it like that. And that is really cool, yeah.

Kelan David 05:36

And so I think that it does, you know, to whatever extent, give somebody like, you know, buddy's dad, another

Kelan David 05:44

presence on on this earth,

Maia Honeycutt 05:46

absolutely, the songs act as their own time capsule. And we kind of crack that open, and we take a peek into what that is for our guest. And then the episode is going to be on our podcast to be its own sort of right, which is really cool. Yeah, it is cool. It's really cool.

Maia Honeycutt 06:08

Would you like to tell us anything about yourself?

Buddy 06:10

So yeah, are you gonna address me as buddy or babe? Because I don't want to

Maia Honeycutt 06:15

address you as buddy. But it is weird. I don't usually call you that. Did you actually choose to come on here, or did I just make you do it?

Buddy 06:22

I mean, when I heard that you were doing this, I was down, okay, cool. Me and Leo were talking about doing a podcast, but we would get canceled, like episode.

Maia Honeycutt 06:31

I would love, actually, for our guests to understand your name is Buddy like you are buddy when you work at places you have buddy on your name tag, correct? When you introduce yourself to strangers the whole nine yards, like you are, buddy, but that is not your Christian birth name,

Buddy 06:48

Christian birthday. What?

Maia Honeycutt 06:52

I don't know your birth my name,

Buddy 06:54

that's just my name.

Maia Honeycutt 06:59

Can you explain to us why you

Buddy 07:01

buddy, yeah, and this will actually tie in, so that'll be perfect. So my real name is Alberto, which has nothing to do with Buddy, but, um, my dad was from Texas, and his name was also Alberto, but everybody knew him as Bob, which also did not tie to that name at all. But I guess it's like a southern thing. I don't know there's just like a thing. We're just gonna go with Bob, yeah, to just give him a name. He was also a contractor, so like Bob the Builder, probably, type of situation. But yeah. So then I was born, and he started just calling me buddy, hey buddy, come here. Hey buddy, come buddy, buddy, buddy. And then I just, they just stuck, which I was like, Cool, that's an easy name, whatever. And it's not like, I don't know. Yeah, you're right. Basically nobody knows my name, my real name as Alberto, not even some of my friends that I've known for years, one of the like, not even that long ago, one of my friends was like, I just found out that your name isn't buddy. And I was like, it is buddy. It is, but it isn't, but, yeah, that was just from my dad and nickname that my dad gave me, and it just stuck.

Maia Honeycutt 08:18

And can you imagine not being buddy, like it'd be so weird if you were just Alberto.

Buddy 08:24

I know I feel like I would dress differently and look differently. Really, I feel like your name has a lot to do with the way you end up looking. For sure, I

Maia Honeycutt 08:33

think that in a weird way, you do become your name, no matter what it is.

Kelan David 08:38

Yeah, I've definitely wondered that.

Buddy 08:40

I thought that too. I've always, I've always figured that, like, You got to have a cool name to look cool.

Kelan David 08:45

So do so do you have to have a nerdy name to look nerdy? Yeah?

Buddy 08:50

I mean, that's just the thing for sure. Yeah, yeah.

Buddy 08:56

I feel like my name, like nickname, fits me pretty well. You're such a pretty nice to most people,

Kelan David 09:01

yeah, definitely, despite the rustic bitch face, Yeah,

Maia Honeycutt 09:06

apparently Yeah, have a bit of that. But then, like, you see,

Buddy 09:09

but then you talk to me, and it's like, you would never Yeah, yeah. That's the thing is, like, I can make friends with anybody. I really need to be like, your buddy. I have such. I have a pretty big and a big and very diverse friend group of many different kinds of people, of many different religions and of many different views of politics and everything. I just give everybody a blank slate, unless you give me a reason to not like you, then your goal, in my book, I guess you'll be okay.

Kelan David 09:37

Sounds pretty reasonable. Yeah, that's a good way to go through life. I think. Have you said what you want to say about yourself?

Buddy 09:43

Oh, yeah. Have you said, Wait, okay, I thought we were doing that in a different way. Yeah, I'm buddy. I am born and raised here in Grand Junction. You am born.

Buddy 09:57

I am born. I am born here. I was born here in Junction, raised here. I like the snowboard, mountain bike, video games, cats, yeah, food,

Kelan David 10:11

nice, yeah, that's, that's a great although,

Buddy 10:14

although, yeah, no, I guess food isn't really up there. What do you mean? Like, my palate is apparently bland to you, but I like good

Maia Honeycutt 10:21

doesn't mean you don't like food. Like, sorry, I shouldn't talk so much crap about your boring

Buddy 10:27

Maia taste, because my hand my turkey, mayonnaise and cheese sandwich only, yeah, and

Maia Honeycutt 10:31

that's fine. It's pretty good to me. You know, think it's your opinion. That's fine. Everybody can like what they like. And I do think you are a bit of a foodie, because, like, anytime we travel, we I want to try something different. Yeah, we always want to, like, go to a new restaurant.

Buddy 10:43

Yeah, there's, that's true. There's people who travel and will go for their comfort thing, like Chick fil A, or like, Apple bell. And I'm like, What are you doing? Like, you're in a new place, you should be eating something different.

Maia Honeycutt 10:57

Okay, so, yeah, I guess we should introduce your song.

Buddy 10:59

Yeah, this song in the mood is specifically because I used to play the trumpet, and we played the song in my band, in my jazz band back in middle school, specifically because my dad requested the song to my teacher, because he really liked the song. So, yeah, I played the song. It has a memory. Oh, also, because it was my dad's request, I was the one that got the solo part. Oh, nice. And, yeah,

Maia Honeycutt 11:29

we give it a listen, actually, because I don't know which part the solo part,

Buddy 11:33

I don't remember if this part, like there's, there's different, you know, versions of this song, they gave you a solo. So I had a solo in that one. Yeah, I don't actually remember if it does exist. And then I unfortunately, the last time I heard the song was at my dad's funeral, but oh yeah. So Oh no, that's not true when tick tock, tick tock, made it a hole with the song, and I was like, oh yeah. So you

Kelan David 11:59

started hearing it, I started hearing it more regularly, yeah, for sure. And so it took you back over and over again.

Buddy 12:05

Maybe every time that I heard it, I was like, well, that song now has, like a memory. It'll always link to something, you know,

Kelan David 12:12

yeah, for sure. So perfect. Should we listen now? Go ahead. Okay. Oh, so

Kelan David 12:36

it's definitely like I would consider this a pretty happy vibe, for sure. Yeah, there's Why do you think your dad liked it so much?

Buddy 12:44

I don't actually know. I think it just had to do with my dad was a boomer, so like, when I hear the song, I think this is the solo, yeah. So it does have a solo. It's a saxophone in this one, but I played the trumpet. So I did it on the trumpet. That's cool. Yeah, my dad was just a part of a different time, so I think of like him listening to the song, and like, wiggling his finger in the air, kicking his feet. Now, I mean, that's just like the kind of vibe that I get off of this song. You know what? I mean, it's very swinging. Yeah, it is, like,

Maia Honeycutt 13:18

it kind of makes you want to dance.

Buddy 13:22

That part was hard. Then there was another solo. Oh, this one is a trumpet. I can't even tell that difference. Actually, you Maia,

Maia Honeycutt 13:48

and you always listen to, like, you definitely enjoy brass music, but you don't really listen to, no,

Buddy 13:55

I definitely don't listen to jazz music or, like, yeah, that's not like, I go out of my way to listen to this kind of music. I liked it a lot, obviously, and it was nice to practice and listen to it when I was actually playing, you know. But I, I, yeah, now I don't listen to it at all. This is a really cool spot park because it like, starts off really quiet, yeah, and

Buddy 14:21

then it crescendos. You

Buddy 14:31

think it's gonna end every time. And then it gets or, sorry, it gets quieter. Oh, I don't know, yeah, leave it. No, no, leave it. It gets quieter. I

Buddy 14:44

The cowbell in the back. Those are feel like

Maia Honeycutt 14:46

I could have used a little more. Oh, yep, it would be

Maia Honeycutt 14:54

so fun to go dancing to, like swing this old school i.

Buddy 15:00

Yeah, that part was really, really fun to play when it's, like, really quiet, especially in, like, a, you know, in an auditorium, yeah,

Buddy 15:16

the mess ups in there where it's not, like, exactly lined up, give it character. It's pretty it's pretty fun, like, it's never gonna be exact, you know, right?

Maia Honeycutt 15:24

I mean, there's a lot of people that you're recording with, for sure, I was actually, I was still gonna ask you, you were talking about a song that took you back to driving with your dad. Oh, that song,

Buddy 15:39

um, oh, God, what was it? Well dressed. Man, by ZZ Top, I think is what it's called, lady, sharp dressed.

Kelan David 15:45

Man, a sharp dress. Man, yeah, I

Buddy 15:56

just feel like this is one of those kinds of songs that, like, you don't have to know ZZ Top to know this song. Oh, sure. Know what I mean, yeah, like, I don't consider me especially the chorus, yeah, exactly.

Buddy 16:13

The guitar goes so hard word,

Maia Honeycutt 16:15

but yeah. Also like this kind of music

Buddy 16:18

My dad likes, yeah? I mean, he listened to a lot of ZZ Top, and he listened like Bee Gees. Was another one like that. I could think back of driving around with him, Michael Jackson. He liked Michael Jackson a lot too.

Kelan David 16:33

So this is him driving around Yeah,

Buddy 16:35

and so you're just riding. I'm just Yeah. I'm a kid. I'm a little kid. Actually. George Strait, another one of those kinds of people that, yeah, are artists that we listen to a lot. Yeah? These, these, I was raised on, of those kinds of, this kind of music, country music, that kind of stuff, which, like, I don't listen to this kind of music at all.

Kelan David 16:59

Yeah. So now when it comes on,

Buddy 17:01

yeah, I bring it, it takes you back, takes me back, yeah,

Maia Honeycutt 17:05

what kind of did he drive a truck?

Buddy 17:08

He did drive a truck. Yeah, I'm just trying to paint the picture. Chevy Silverado or no at this time, it was probably the red Ford f1 50, yeah, driving to Texas to go visit some family. And yeah, he's just, like, on the dashboard, hitting the dash or the steering wheel with his finger, you know,

Kelan David 17:27

yeah, this is, like, a pretty perfect, like, montage song for a road trip,

Kelan David 17:34

the windows down, driving down the highway

Maia Honeycutt 17:36

towards the sunset, towards Texas, right?

Buddy 17:40

That's yeah, and you can see that sunset for miles. I don't know if you guys ever been to that area. It's like, you can see houses that are miles away, because there is just flat you can see barns out in the mist.

Kelan David 17:55

And by that area, it's like one of the biggest land masses. It's just so, yeah, vast.

Buddy 18:00

That area also known as Texas, yeah, the place who can't handle their power grid.

Maia Honeycutt 18:08

And why? Sorry, so you had, your dad's family is down in Texas. So you were driving down there to do, like, just like family reunion, fun stuff,

Buddy 18:18

yeah, well, actually, the time that I can think of when we

Buddy 18:23

drove there

Buddy 18:25

was because my sister Monica, she got kind of sick mentally, and so we went down there to go visit her, to make sure that she was okay. And yeah, she was in a facility for a little bit. But, you know, the trip was a whole nice thing. There was, you know, getting there and seeing her, and she was, she was good after we had visited her. She was doing for it way better. So, yeah, I guess that also takes me to, yeah, a memory of Monica, yeah, stuff like that, which I guess we haven't really talked about. And I guess this is good for context for you killing. But my dad passed away in 2022, from cancer. And then my sister, the girl that I was like, you know, my sister that was just talking about my house, Sister Monica, was in Texas with her. And, you know, she, her, her husband had passed away from covid. Wow. Yeah, a whole thing that that side of my family, that poor side of my family, but she, she passed away from a stroke last year. Wow. So, like, all that side of my family, like in Texas, was just devastated. So, wow, that's some context for what, what like these, these songs have sentiment now, yeah,

Kelan David 19:50

definitely. So for sure,

Buddy 19:54

I'm trying not to get emotional. I

Kelan David 19:55

figure that I know, but yeah, that's,

Maia Honeycutt 19:57

yeah, totally, it's okay. Want to get emotional, or if you don't want to get emotional, yeah, that's okay.

Buddy 20:03

It's hard, yeah. But yeah, those songs take you back, yeah,

Kelan David 20:10

those times, yeah. It's interesting because it's, it's, uh, it's not like, you know, the context of the song itself, like, you know, it's not the lyrics and the song, no.

Buddy 20:19

And that's the thing, is, like these, these lyrics mean nothing like in the mood that doesn't even have any lyrics, you know what I mean, but it's about the way that it makes you feel when you think about those times. But yeah, yeah, songs, a lot of those songs had just, you think about, you know, my dad asking for that song to be specifically at my jazz band concert, you know what I mean, or driving to Texas, and those drives are miserable, but, you know, you think, you think about it that way, and you're listening to the cold music, and can you give me a tissue?

Maia Honeycutt 20:53

Yeah, I was actually gonna walk one over too. Okay,

Kelan David 20:56

well, we'll make sure to have tissues on every table.

Buddy 20:58

Yeah, literally, you're on out. That's how you know it hits, yeah,

Kelan David 21:02

yeah, definitely, definitely, I've never seen that sharp dressed man do that to a person.

Maia Honeycutt 21:13

So he is, he was, like a very he probably always wore a button up shirt.

Buddy 21:17

It's so funny. You say you're picturing him. I forgot you never met I never got to meet you. Yeah, yeah. We got together the at the end of the year that he passed away. Yeah, you say that. And I'm like, What do you mean? But yeah, no, I forgot you never met him. But yeah, he was sharp dressed man, a sharp dressed man. I mean, he was a Tejano. That's the thing is, like, I have a picture of him in some absolute swag, you know, like, he literally looks like the kind of person that is exactly the kind of person you would think would listen to this kind of music, honestly.

Maia Honeycutt 21:49

And when you say Tejano, like, is that? Oh, totally the cowboy hat. Oh, yeah, yeah. Super sharp mustache.

Buddy 21:58

Gold. Did he rock cowboy boots. Oh, he had real snake skin.

Maia Honeycutt 22:03

That's very, okay. That makes sense. That's definitely Tejano. So I get what you're saying with that. Very, like, Hano

Buddy 22:08

is a mix of Texas and Mexican people, yeah, you know what? I mean. It's like, that style of, like, the combination of that,

Maia Honeycutt 22:17

like, very traditional in a way, like, very, yeah,

Buddy 22:21

for sure. And that's like, that's the thing, though, is that he, yeah, put on like people thought that he was, like, Mexican, Hispanic, but he's not. He wasn't that side of my family's American, Spanish, Italian, or something like that.

Maia Honeycutt 22:35

But he was raised in that Texas, yeah, right.

Buddy 22:39

And that's around us, like he, he wasn't he, like, spoke Spanish when they were younger, like they but like it was super broken and like it wasn't true Spanish, you know what? I mean, they that that side of my family didn't, like, truly learn to speak Spanish until they all individually, like they get it. They were getting with people who spoke Spanish, you know, like my dad, he learned how to speak Spanish to talk to my mom. Oh, yeah, yeah, because he had to use her brothers, who spoke a little bit more English to translate for him. Wow, yeah. Like tell your sister this type of situation, and then like this and like, so they were pretty kind to him then. And, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, is, like, he, yeah, sometimes I think about that and I'm like, I don't understand how he ended up doing that. You see the way he's dressed, that's, I mean, that's true, like, he did have that swag on, for sure, but

Maia Honeycutt 23:36

obviously, I it sounds like he, he had the traditional values that made him like a gentleman, right? Yeah.

Buddy 23:42

I mean, yes, it's just like, the thing is, is that he, he was like, before he met my mom, there was, like, a, there was a time switch that happened for him, like, like I had told you before Maia, like, he probably had, he not met my mom. He probably would have died long ago. He would have died 20 something years ago. Just the lifestyle is he was a part of a lifestyle. Well, number one, he was an alcoholic. So like, and not an alcoholic, sorry, he was a drunk. He was the kind of person that would drink, knowing that he would get mean and fight people and stuff like that. Like that. Guy has stories. You know what I mean. There's so much story, so many stories that go back to the root of him drinking, you know what I mean. But then he met my mom, and he flipped the switch. He He was drinking still, but he was trying to get his life in line. And then he found out that my mom was pregnant with me, and that day, he literally went to his favorite bar here in junctions, or something like that, I think is what it was called. And he was basically like he he was a bouncer there, and he was a regular there. So he'd go. Was there, and he's like, Hey guys, like, I'm done. You're not gonna see me in this bar anymore. You're never gonna see me drinking in it again.

Kelan David 25:09

And so you never knew your dad to be

Buddy 25:12

a drinker. Never, I never saw my dad intentionally drink. There was this one time we were at a family gathering and he was drinking a Pepsi. And my uncle was sitting next to him drinking a Pepsi too, but my uncle had put a little something, something there some little extra spice in there. And my dad takes a sip of it, and he's like, What the fuck is this like? What he's like, Oh, my God. Why? I can't Why are you doing that? Why would you do that? Why are you ruining your Yeah, why are you dream ruining your Pepsi? He loved Pepsi too. He loved his Pepsi. But, yeah, that was the only time that I had ever seen him drink, quote, unquote, drink alcohol. You mean, but he was pissed. Wow. I, I had never seen that side of him like that. And I, like I said, I feel bad for my sister, my sister's Monica and Andrea, and my I have a half brother too, my two half sisters and a half brother. I feel bad for them because they weren't raised with the father that raised me. So they're all older. Oh, yeah, they're my oldest sister is, like, a few years younger than my mom.

Maia Honeycutt 26:17

Yeah, like he literally had a whole life, and then he met your not

Buddy 26:21

only that, he had, he had four whole wives and lies. You know what I mean. He had my brother with one lady, my sisters with another lady. And then he had a baby who passed away when she was a baby with a different lady. And me, yeah, he was,

Kelan David 26:41

wow, wow. So, so it was your mom.

Buddy 26:43

Then that's, that's the thing is, like it was, it was, it was 100% my mom, like, she, he, and then, I mean, the thing that I always like to say is that stuff works in a way. Stuff has to work in a way in order for it to be the final outcome of what your life ends up being. Because he went through, yeah, losing a child. He went through, he never wanted to admit it. But I know that he did drugs when his younger days. You know what I mean, alcohol and

Maia Honeycutt 27:12

it was like what the 80s and stuff was in his 20s, partying like

Buddy 27:17

80s when he was in his 20s. He was born in 54 Oh, yeah. He was like, God, yeah,

Maia Honeycutt 27:25

yeah. So yeah for sure. He was

Buddy 27:28

sure he was surrounded by drugs and alcohol and like he was one of 15 kids. Wow. So he was raised just like, it was very much. So just survive, totally, you know what? I mean, just survive. And the thing that made it hard was that, like, probably, I guess, yeah, I mean, that's the thing is, like, his his dad, I guess, was not around. I never met that side of my grandparents. They passed before I was born. But his dad wasn't around. Apparently he was, like, a part of the Maia in some way. He would come home in like a really nice suit, but like, with his neck, like, all cut up and all beat up, that's great, yeah. And then my poor grandma having to, like, take care of all these kids, feed all these kids, and they lived off of beans in a pot and tortillas, but they were homemade. They were homemade.

Kelan David 28:26

It's hard to beat homemade tortillas,

Maia Honeycutt 28:29

but yeah, that'll fill up a hungry stomach. He was in tortillas.

Buddy 28:33

He was just raised in a time that was like, hard. He was raised really poor. Both of my parents were raised really, really poor, right?

Maia Honeycutt 28:42

Because your mom was also one of 10 in Mexico, crazy. You're over here, just

Buddy 28:49

an only child. Oh, wow. And then I never lived. I have half siblings, but I never lived with them, like, I never, I never was around them. But, yeah, my parents were like, I am not gonna do that to him, yeah, it was, I couldn't imagine being I can imagine having that many siblings. Yeah, that many. I have a lot of cousins and stuff. And I'm like, right? I can't imagine having that many people in my vicinity.

Maia Honeycutt 29:15

That's the thing about it. It gets really like, I can't imagine having that many. I mean, I grew up with two siblings, and there were too many of us, honestly, like too many of us for my mom to deal with, yeah, too many people having to take a shower at night, even just the simplest thing of like people using the bathroom in the morning, before school and stuff like that. I mean, I can't imagine 10 to 12 siblings unreal.

Kelan David 29:41

I'm sitting here just fantasizing about having my own bedroom.

Buddy 29:45

How many? How many?

Kelan David 29:47

One of four? So not that's real big. I mean, it was a and that's the thing. We grew up in a three bedroom house, so it's like, parents room and then, and then I always had to share a bedroom.

Maia Honeycutt 29:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an interesting dynamic. I mean, that's just like. A thing that it's just interesting, like having to fully share your space with a sibling, and that's why siblings have that type of bond where it's like, I hate you so much, but also I would kill someone for you because I love you.

Buddy 30:10

Well, dude, and that's the thing. Those are, like, my dad's there was some people that were like that in my dad's siblings, but then some of them that were literally trying to kill each other, like, literally, like knives out trying to, like, my dad's brother, Jay, he got out of prison and then came home and was trying to fight my dad pulls a knife out on him. My dad, like, like, backs up and, like, kind of books. It a little bit to the neighbor's house. This is such a crazy story, but yeah, it's his own brother. His brother is literally trying to kill him. He's literally trying to, like, stab him. But my dad grabs a hula hoop, and hula hoops are hard, like, they're hard plastic, you know. So he, like, bends it to make it, like, like a sword type thing, and he just starts, like, swinging on his brother with it. And I guess, like, he hit him hard enough to make him back off. Wow. Like, yeah, don't bring a knife to fight, but with my dad, I definitely, I remember specifically his dream, which happened. It was like, I think, maybe a couple months prior to when my grandparents passed away from my mom's side. My grandparents passed away last year too, within a month of each other, which I guess, yeah, it's pretty common. You hear about that all the time, but, uh, anyway, in my dream, my dad were in my grandparents house, and my dad is walking out of the hall, out of the hallway, and I'm sitting at the couch eating something. And it's funny, because my dad was a contractor, like, he did a bunch of stuff, but his main thing was that he painted houses and did that kind of stuff. So I remember specifically, like, it's he's just, like a bright white light type of thing. But I know it's him because he has on his Sherwin Williams painter pants in, like, his work boots, and like he's talking to me, and I'm like, I'm like, what do you do? I'm like, I was like, What are you doing here? Like, I knew in my my dream that he shouldn't have been there, you know what I mean? And I was like, What are you doing here? And I was like, Oh, just, you know, I forgot, man, I wish I remembered exactly how it was. But he did say something like, it was something like, along the lines of, oh, just letting you know that I'm checking in on you, or, like, just hanging out, yeah. And, I mean, it was like, one of those kinds of situations. And, yeah, I woke up, bawling. Yeah. Woke up, yeah. It was so weird. Like, it was one of those ones where you're just like, no doubt in my mind, that was my grandparents house. I was sitting at the table that he actually that was our old table at our house that busted his knee. It's like a metal frame table, and he hit his knees so hard that it like jolted his body so hard that it like put him into a panic attack. Yeah, it was gnarly. Yeah, that that's the whole thing that happened. Like this was before we knew he had cancer and everything. But yeah, he like, bobbed his knee on the edge of this table and just like crumbled to the ground, just shaking, like violently shaking. But yeah, I we took it to my grandparents house. But yeah, I am eating at that table, sitting on my grandparents couch, and I see him walk through here. It's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting,

Maia Honeycutt 33:32

yeah, for sure, like he really just wanted to say hi to you, yeah,

Buddy 33:36

for sure. It's just one of those things where you you can't ignore the feeling that came from that experience, yeah? The feeling, yeah, for sure, you can't like if it means something to you, then that's what it means right at the end of the day. Really, you know what I mean? Because everybody's experience with it is different and always will be individual to

Maia Honeycutt 33:56

that, yeah? And I think that

Maia Honeycutt 33:59

when you already have a bit of maybe abstract spirituality or whatever. When you lose someone, it gets even weirder. You're like, Okay, what am I? What am I gonna like? Am I gonna just, like, not believe in anything? Am I gonna believe, right? Yeah. Like, you start to just kind of, I remember, like, when it when it was right after my grandma had passed, and I had a dream that was very vivid and and she hugged me. And I remember waking up and trying to figure out, was that her, was that? Was that her coming to me and giving me a hug, or was it just because my brain could remember the feeling of her hug, and I just, like, really wanted a hug from her again, for sure, but it's like, I think it's, it's really liberating to just realize that either way, like I got a hug from my grandma, you know? And it is beautiful to think that maybe she came to give me that, but it's also beautiful to. Think that she's so ingrained in my heart and in my brain that she is somewhere in there and, like, my dream state can, yeah, draw a hug from my grandma when I really need one, you know, right?

Kelan David 35:11

Like, it doesn't need analyzing, yeah, right, yeah. That's what makes it

Buddy 35:16

real, is that when you don't have to analyze it, like you were saying, and it just is happening. And, you know, that's what it is, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, those kinds I've had multiple dreams about my dad in those kinds of ways where it's just like, we're like, doing something, and then I, like, come to in my dream, and I'm like, Wait, why are you like, why are you here? How are you here? Like, you're not supposed to be here right now, I remember one time I had a dream, one time I my anxiety was so bad, but I had a dream one time that him and I were fighting like we were having an argument. And then I come to in my dream, and I'm like, wait, like, why am I arguing with you right now? You're not even like, you don't even exist anymore, you know? Yeah, and how was, like, I don't even understand why I'm fighting with you right now. And and then I woke up. You know, it's weird there.

Buddy 36:10

I don't know.

Maia Honeycutt 36:12

Maybe it was your brain just regurgitating a little bit of your own emotional turmoil, because I know that one of the weirder things about grieving and losing someone is that sometimes you do find yourself mad at them, or sometimes you do have little internal fights, yeah, why didn't you take care of yourself? Or why didn't you do this? Or why I don't, you know, it's like, it's weird when you do, you know, have some of those emotions tied into, you know, the love and the loss of them. So maybe that was, like, part of your brain just sort of like hashing out some of the weirder emotions that you feel around.

Buddy 36:52

I think if I ever remember correctly, it was specifically I had, not just that long ago, had gone my septum piercing so my dad, he wouldn't approve Exactly, that's exactly what it is, I think, is that he was, like, I said traditional and old school in that way where, like, when I was younger, my hair was always on a two buzz. You know what I mean? Like, my hair was really short. I didn't get a tattoo until I was 20. Likely, like, yeah, he just want, he would have been, like, why are you doing that? Like, why do you have earrings? Why do you have a septum piercing? Why is your hair grown out? It was just traditional in that way, you know what I mean. And, yeah, those are the things that make me think of like, we wouldn't have agreed on that kind of stuff, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, we wouldn't have agreed on that kind of ideology, or, like, the style that I have now,

Kelan David 37:42

right? So he still is coming in your dreams.

Maia Honeycutt 37:46

Like, why are you doing that? Maybe, like, he's like, you carry him with you. So that bit of tradition is actually in you a little

Buddy 37:56

bit just because you my styles are like, brain is

Maia Honeycutt 38:00

like, well, I know what my dad would think about this. It's not what I think about it, but I know what he would think about it. So then your brain just kind of like,

Buddy 38:07

well, and see, that's the thing is, like, I wouldn't have the style that I have that I and in a weird way, him passing has helped me find a style that I really like, and that has made me become more of a like, individualized type of person for the way that I dress and the accessories that I wear and stuff like that. But yeah, he would not approve of that kind of stuff. He was a jeans and shirt type of guy, all right, for me, you know what I mean? But yeah, having a Septon ring and having my ears pierced and all that kind of stuff would not, would not have been really like,

Kelan David 38:41

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, Maia is probably right. Like, your subconscious knew that that's like the case. And then you're like, I'm still

Buddy 38:48

gonna have the argument. Yeah, no, for sure. And honestly, I was very worried when I did it for my mom, because my mom is a very traditional Mexican lady, super Christian, super Mexican lady. You a little bit, but yeah, when she saw my she she saw that. She was so funny. I have a video of it. Actually. I walk up to my mom, and I'm like, Hey, Mom, what's up? And she's like, she like, for some reason, could tell that something was different about me, but she was like, analyzing me. And she like, gives me. She's like, she's like, Hi, how are you doing? And I'm like, I'm like, Oh, good. Like, do you know I was lazy? Like, do you notice anything? Because I was expecting that initial reaction immediately. And then she's like, analyzing me. And then she sees that my ears are pierced, and she goes, I buddy. And then she like, boom, hits my arm just like, gives me a good smack on the arm. She's like, Oh no, it looks good.

Kelan David 39:38

She's like, I had to get that out. But it's love the

Buddy 39:40

way she says your name, yeah, body by body, very Hispanic, body, but, but, like, that's the thing is, like, my mom also, like, we've, I don't really know how else to say this, other than the way I'm about to say but my dad influenced us to be a specific way with our clothing and our dressing and all that. Kind of stuff, be very modest, be very not flashy in any way like that. So, like, my mom didn't care that I had my ears pierced and that I got a septum ring and all that kind of stuff, because she knows that I like it, and she knows that my dad, my dad, would have been, like, freaking out about it, but he was just really traditional, yeah and old Yeah, an old school, you know,

Maia Honeycutt 40:25

I just really wanted to say thank you, like, I know, like I said, You didn't really have a choice whether or not you're gonna come on here. Oh, I love it. Wanted to have you on as a guest, but thank you for coming and thank you for talking about some really heartfelt things for

Buddy 40:38

sure, no? And that's the thing. Like, every time you talk about it, it

Kelan David 40:41

gets easier, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's one of those things that'll never be truly easy, no.

Buddy 40:46

And that's the thing is, like, it's just sometimes I can talk about it. And that's the things like, when you talk about their stories and like, they're like, the things that they did, it's easier for me to talk about those kinds of things. And to talk about, like, the minute, like listening to this song, and like, you think of that song specifically brings me back to him. You know what I mean? That's when it gets hard for some reason. Yeah, yeah. That's like, the small stuff where it's like, yeah, you don't think that that would have such an effect on bringing you back to that person. You would think it would be harder when you're talking about their stories and stuff, but actually harder when you just have that little minuscule detail that you're like, only that would bring me back to that person

Maia Honeycutt 41:26

well, and that's kind of the whole point of this podcast, right? Is, you know, stories and things, yeah, we can return to memories, but music has that weird way of transports you in a more direct way, in a different way.

Kelan David 41:38

Yeah, it's more, it's maybe more in the heart than in the brain. Yeah, yeah. It's a good way to put it, yeah.

Buddy 41:47

And it's crazy how music can do that to you. You know what? I mean, it has nothing to do with the feel of the music or but, like, yeah, what it does for you afterwards, yeah? Then that's why I think this podcast, podcast is dope for you guys. Like, it's more than just, like, the song itself, right?

Kelan David 42:00

You know, yeah, it's about the stories. It's about people's stories. And yeah, I was thinking about, thanks for tuning in to that takes me back broadcasting from 970 West studio in beautiful Grand Junction, Colorado.

Maia Honeycutt 42:18

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